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pemom
03-27-2008, 05:23 PM
Parents are one reason kids succeed, or don't, in school. But hardly the only one, an ACLU lawyer blogs this week (click here). The group recently filed suit against the Palm Beach County school district (see story here), pointing to anemic grad rates as proof the district isn't providing the high quality education required by the Florida Constitution.

What about personal responsibility?, asked Tallahassee Democrat columnist Bill Cotterell. "Government schools are like the Florida Turnpike – provided for everyone to use equally, but how far and how fast you go is, inevitably, up to you," he wrote here. "Whether you arrive in a sputtering 1978 Mazda with no windows and the exhaust pipe held on by a coat hanger, or a new Bentley, is something the government can't control."

In his response, the ACLU's David Blanding didn't riff on Cotterell's analogy (he could have said, "But what if the government helps steer students in those Mazdas off the Turnpike, by not ensuring them access to the same high-quality teachers as their peers in the Bentleys?") Instead, he cited a 19th century education reformer: "Horace Mann once proclaimed that ‘education … is the great equalizer of the conditions of men – the balance-wheel of the social machinery.' If this is to remain true, our public schools must be responsive to the varying amounts of social capital and debt our children inherit."

more.......
http://blogs.tampabay.com/schools/2008/03/dont-blame-the.html

Birdie
03-27-2008, 06:07 PM
I'm still searching for that raspberry smilie.

D-Dub
03-27-2008, 09:30 PM
Hey Dave... over here. It is really cool you busted out the Mann quote... We education majors know how much professors love him. But... Mann was a 19th Century education reformer. Education was a bit different in the 1800's. See, back then - not every student went to school.

I have no raspberry smile for you I only have this: :finger:

Birdie
03-27-2008, 11:28 PM
Hey Dave... over here. It is really cool you busted out the Mann quote... We education majors know how much professors love him. But... Mann was a 19th Century education reformer. Education was a bit different in the 1800's. See, back then - not every student went to school.

I have no raspberry smile for you I only have this: :finger:

That wasn't very nice. Good night. And back to you...I like to speak the same language..:finger:

D-Dub
03-27-2008, 11:52 PM
Birdie - did you think :finger: was directed at you? :finger: was directed at Dave the ACLU lawyer.

See, you were searching for a raspberry smile or perhaps: :p . I however was going for the direct approach with out the kindness you were offering.

That is why I chose my go to :finger:

Birdie
03-28-2008, 05:14 PM
Birdie - did you think :finger: was directed at you? :finger: was directed at Dave the ACLU lawyer.

See, you were searching for a raspberry smile or perhaps: :p . I however was going for the direct approach with out the kindness you were offering.

That is why I chose my go to :finger:

Sorry, I was tired, which makes me stupid and cranky.:o

D-Dub
03-28-2008, 09:13 PM
Sorry, I was tired, which makes me stupid and cranky.:o

I wouldn't say stupid. An easy mistake to make.

Karmamama
03-28-2008, 09:37 PM
I remember sitting in Dad's Stadium at Plant High in 1981 with the rest of my sophomore class (way back then 9th grade was still jr. high). The principal told us to look at the faces around us because about half of them wouldn't be around in 3 years when we graduated. He said unfortunately some will CHOOSE to drop out, some will move, and some may even pass away (I don't even want to remember how many funerals I went to in HS). He basically told us here it is, come and get it. If you don't want it, that's your choice. Some things have changed, some have stayed the same. My high school years were rough but dropping out was never an option b/c my parents wouldn't have allowed it to be an option. I even had different "sets" of parents; my early school career was mom & stepdad (a HS teacher) and jr. & sr. high years was my dad & stepmom. Both sets drilled it into me that school was important, period. That was the biggest influence, the parental support.